Who is Better at Persuasion Men or Women? Reloaded
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Oh boy, here we go again. It seems like my old nemesis Coach Deb hasn’t woken up from The Matrix, created by her own ignorance yet.
A few of you may remember the argument I got into with Coach Deb on the argument Regarding my post Who is Better at Persuasion Men or Women. which was a response to her sexist article about how Women are more powerful influencers than Men I will admit, Deb got under my skin more than any other commenter, I ever had. Her aggressive commenting showed I obviously offended her too.
Well, I just let it go because it was a waste of time and just said my piece and let it go.
Well, Deb is back and she wants to continue the debate in the comment section of that post.
*Sigh*, I admire her aggressiveness to prove her point, but I am annoyed at the fact she keeps on changing points. I made my argument always that there is no better or worse in the genders when it comes to persuasion, then she counters by NOT contesting any of my points but going off on persuasion related tangents that have nothing to do with the current argument.
Being a student of persuasion, I am a less than awful debater so I always am up for an intelligent debate, but based on my experience with her so far I don’t think I can get that out of Deb. Her level of persuasion skill is elementary at best so I really don’t see Deborah as a worthy opponent. I am not convinced yet Coach Deb even knows what true persuasion ability is.
If you are reading this Deb, I am not trying to be mean, I am just being honest.
What do you guys think should I respond to Coach Deb or should I just ignore her?
P.S. Deb since it seems you can’t tell when I am being sarcastic or playful, and you like to take small sarcastic nudges out of context instead or countering an argument; I want you to know I am saying arch nemesis in a light playful tone. If we are going to debate this man women thing again, let’s stay on topic please. Please do not change this to a debate into the proper use of the words arch nemesis m-kay?
-Bill
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4 Responses to “Who is Better at Persuasion Men or Women? Reloaded”
By Sue on Jun 2, 2008 | Reply
To answer your question, you’ve already responded her by creating this very post.
I think the two of you could go round and round on this one. Apparently she isn’t going to budge on her viewpoints, so you must think to yourself not whether she is a worthy opponent, but if this debate is a good use of your time.
In my opinion, you should let it go. Both of you. As an outsider, I dislike being ‘dragged’ into a comment feud. If you two want to hash it out, why can’t you do it via email?
And I also had a hard time seeing the playful humor in this post, but that’s because I’m new here. I wonder if Deb didn’t pick up on the sarcasm because she’s already a bit flustered. It’s hard to see when somebody is being playful when you’re upset.
By Bill on Jun 2, 2008 | Reply
Hi Sue,
I dunno, I thought The Matrix references were kinda clever
Thanks for commenting happy to see you here again, perhaps I need to clarify, the post is not meant to be funny per se, but I don’t anyone in the western world who uses the term “arch-nemesis” outside of a Hollywood flick, therefore not to be taken literally.
I do not think that Deb is an evil person, I am sure she is a good person and I am not secretly plotting against her in an underground laboratory.
Long story short the whole feud between me and Deb started because I used the term “I need to school ya” which was not intended literally and she took the whole thing out of context and turned it into a sexist comment, which is IMO really dumb.
But your advice to ignore her dually noted
Thanks Sue,
-Bill
By Nightmajic on Jun 2, 2008 | Reply
Well, Bill, in situations like this I often consult the I Ching. Here is the Hexagram I’ve pulled for your sitatuation, as I perceive it:
Hexagram 58 — Tui (Joy)
“TUI : an open surface, promoting interaction and interpenetration; responsive, free, unhindered, pleasing; opening, passage; the mouth; exchange, barter; straight, direct; meet, gather, place where water accumulates. The ideogram: person, mouth and vapor, speaking with others”
Hexagram 58 is a hexagram symbolic of both intenseness and self-reflection. In the image, one joins one’s business with businesses of others and thus speeds up the process of selling; increases one’s market through joint ventures. (establishing a degree of intenseness). Contextually we combine compromise and mirroring to achieve joyousness & intensity.
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It seems that synthesis is best! As much fun as it has been for me to follow the comments (and as tempting as it is to argue that Eve was in fact influenced first by Satan in the form of a snake, who traditionally is a male figure), I would suggest minimalizing unnecessary friction.
Right or Wrong aside, I think your good readers, having sense enough to recognize the validity of your material, can probably come to an equally sensible position on the matter of male versus female in the context of influence and persuasion.
To add one more thing to the discussin of Yin and Yang, I think it’s interesting to note that one contains the seed of the other. Things are not always as they seem
By Bill on Jun 2, 2008 | Reply
Thanks Nightmajic, good advice
-Bill